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Well I'm new here and I did build a "6 hour canoe" that I figured out several years ago, but it's become damaged to the point of not being worth rebuilding, so I decided to design and build something a little different. It's an S&G design "canyak', for lack of a better word. The pirogue served it's purpose and I enjoyed building as well as using it, but it had a learning curve when it came to using it. After looking ad quite a few other designs out by different designers, I decided what I'm looking for.